Can ZoneMinder handle multiple LMLBT44s?/Storage question.

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Can ZoneMinder handle multiple LMLBT44s?/Storage question.

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My store has 16 CCD (with BNC-connectors) cameras and I am currently using an Everfocus EDR 1600 as a DVR. My thoughts regarding the EDR-1600 is best described by Simon Cowell (The ever-nice Idol-judge) :twisted:.

Therefore, I have convinced my boss to purchase hardware for use with ZoneMinder. Since we have 16 cameras, two LMLBT44's (From LinuxMediaLabs) will be required. Is ZoneMinder capable of handling and process input from both?

How much HD space will be required to store up to one week of input from these cameras? There is relatively much motion between 9.30am and 11:30pm in 12 camera zones, non-stop motion in the remaining four zones.

Replies is appreciated.
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Post by victor_diago »

It depends.


Yes, Zoneminder SURELY will take care of the 16 cameras at same time, i have 2 systems like this you´ve described

I use 80 GB hard disk to store one Week, but the images are´nt very good as im using 40 % quality. Im also using 1 FPS (this is important)

If you wants GOOD quality and MORE than 1 week, you should take one 120/160 GB hard disk (i prefers the 160 GB one).

I use AMD Sempron 2.2 GHZ and 512 MB ram. The secret to make all this working right is to set maximun rate to 1 fps and ring buffer to 20
then share something like 128 MB in kernel.shmmax

that should run very well

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Post by zoneminder »

You should be aware of the limitations of passing large quantities of data over the PCI bus. If you start seeing strange errors this is the most likely cause. I would definitely start with smaller images and low frame rates to get things working before trying to push things too much.

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The system will have the following specs:

Socket 775 P4 3.0Ghz, 800 Mhz (HyperThreading and 1 MB L2cache)
512MB 3200 DDR-SDRAM
250 GB WD SATA-150 HD

Is it sufficient to cope with the task of storing 1 week of high-quality photage (Unsure about the spelling, photage or footage?) with the described motion-scenario?

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Post by zoneminder »

For 16 cameras I would get at least 1Gb of RAM just to be on the same safe.

There's nothing really you can change in the specs that affect the capacity of the PCI bus so you can have the fastest computer in the world but it's still going to be stuck if you have a motherboard with a single PCI bus. As suggested in this thread it's probably worth checking with LML to see whether they think a twin bus setup would be necessary for 16 cameras.

As for storage, you have to define what you mean by 'high quality footage' to determine what you need. If you're talking 320x240 at 1 frame per second with 70 jpeg quality setting, so each image is about 15k, then you'd be talking about 16 x 7 x 24 x 60 x 60 x 15000 bytes of storage which by my reckoning is 145152000000 or about 145Gb (I think). But if you are thinking 640x480 then quadruple that and likewise if you want 5fps rather than 1 you will have to multiply it by five. Also don't forget that as you write more images to disk you may start to hit disk transfer bottlenecks so might want a RAID disk array to be able to cope.

It's all a bit hit and miss really until you can exactly pin down your precise requirements.

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Post by sgn »

I am using this motherboard:
http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket7 ... erview.htm

Can't find any details regarding the amount of PCI-buses.
An additional 512 MB of RAM has been ordered.
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just a quick note to add

Post by aot2002 »

im using 8 cameras

4 - black and white sony cameras

4 color ebay cheap camera's

and i bought the cheap cards off ebay too which dont get much frame rates but have 4 bnc connections on the cards.

so since i had a 2 gig computer with a 5 pci slot i bought 4 cards
and figured i would record 4 cameras color of course and the rest are viewable only !

the specs on this computer custom built by me

REDHAT 9
amd athlon xp 2 gig
512mb ram
300gig drive
4-camera cards which get with two cameras 7 frames per second


Detected 1700.313 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 3394.76 BogoMIPS
Memory: 511400k/524224k available (1312k kernel code, 10260k reserved, 996k data, 128k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ stepping 01


This seems to run good except it has a bit of trouble removing all events when the drive gets full, ive tried some of the purge when full but to no luck it just crashes when it gets full.

these are ntsc 320*240 resolution !
im thinking of cutting down the frame rates to help out the computer but other then that it runs pretty good.
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